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  1. Col Udell, Bush's trainer has this to say:
    Retired Col. Maurice Udell, the unit's instructor pilot who helped train Bush, said Friday he thought the documents were fake.
    "I completely am disgusted with this (report) I saw on '60 Minutes,'" Udell said. "That's not true. I was there. I knew Jerry Killian. I went to Vietnam with Jerry Killian in 1968."

  2. Ret. Major General Hodges says he was lied to by CBS according to ABC News
    The 60 Minutes Documents:
    Retired Maj. General Hodges, Killian's supervisor at the Grd, tells ABC News that he feels CBS misled him about the documents they uncovered. According to Hodges, CBS told him the documents were "handwritten" and after CBS read him excerpts he said, "well if he wrote them that's what he felt."
    Hodges also said he did not see the documents in the 70's and he cannot authenticate the documents or the contents. His personal belief is that the documents have been "computer generated" and are a "fraud".
    CBS responds: ""We believed Col. Hodges the first time we spoke with him. We believe the documents to be genuine. We stand by our story and will continue to report on it."

  3. Ben Barnes the man who says he got Bush into the guards is refuted by his own daughter who says he is lying to sell a book and to get in a Kerry administration. Per WBAP ABC Radio.

  4. From NBC News:
    But Killian’s son, one of Killian’s fellow officers and an independent document examiner questioned the memos. Gary Killian, who served in the Guard with his father and retired as a captain in 1991, said he doubted his father would have written an unsigned memo that said there was pressure to “sugar coat” Bush’s performance review.
    “It just wouldn’t happen,” he said. “No officer in his right mind would write a memo like that.”
    The personnel chief in Killian’s unit at the time also said he believes the documents are fake.
    “They looked to me like forgeries,” said Rufus Martin. “I don’t think Killian would do that, and I knew him for 17 years.” Killian died in 1984.
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    Complete MSNBC.com politics coverageIndependent document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines said the memos looked like they had been produced on a computer using Microsoft Word software. Lines, a document expert and fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, pointed to a superscript — a smaller, raised “th” in “111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron” — as evidence indicating forgery.
    Microsoft Word automatically inserts superscripts in the same style as the two on the memos obtained by CBS, she said.
    “I’m virtually certain these were computer-generated,” Lines said after reviewing copies of the documents at her office in Paradise Valley, Ariz. She produced a nearly identical document using her computer’s Microsoft Word software.There was support, too, for the belief that the documents were genuine. An unnamed "senior CBS official" told the Washington Post that one of the network's backup sources was retired Maj. Gen. Bobby W. Hodges, Killian's immediate superior. The CBS executive said a CBS reporter read the documents to Hodges over the phone, and that Hodges replied that "these are the things that Killian had expressed to me at the time," the Post reported Friday.
    But the Post also reported that "in a telephone interview from her Texas home, Killian's widow, Marjorie Connell, described the records as 'a farce,' saying she was with her husband until the day he died in 1984 and he did not 'keep files.' She said her husband considered Bush 'an excellent pilot.'"

  5. And Finally from Little Green Footballs:
    Here is the result if I print the Microsoft Word document I created to a PDF file:

Here is the CBS News “original:”

And here is the result if I overlay the CBS News “original” on my Word-created PDF file:

As you can see, it’s an even better match than the Word screenshots I’ve been using previously.

The superscript “th” in “187th” now lines up perfectly with the CBS News “original.”

The correspondence is so exact that in the center of the image (the focal point of the fax/copier machine that was probably used to “age” it) you cannot see any differences at all.

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